Constant hunger problems and other pain
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Dear Eric,
Continuous weight loss can be a sign of very serious serious conditions like cancer. Certainly your physician ruled that out – I always like to make sure.
Glad you've stopped the fruits for the time being.
You shouldn't feel your liver trying to detox. Glad you don't have stones in your gallbladder. I would suggest you stop the Liver Detox and get a blood test for liver enzymes, to make sure everything's okay there.
Glad to hear the HCl is helpful for you!
With regard to CSA and insurance – you'd have to call yours to see. Every plan, company seems to be different.
Have you considered getting a Hair Analysis to detect heavy metal poisoning? That would be my suggestion, so you have some definitive evidence of the issue. If you choose to begin the cleanse anyway, watch closely for any increased symptoms and stop if they occur. Don't want to overburden your liver! Detox takes time, especially since you've had some intense toxic exposures!
It's time to be gentle with yourself, and rebuild, not overburden.
Brenda
12:49 pm
November 22, 2011
OfflineThanks for the info, Brenda.
"I'm assuming that very serious conditions have been ruled out through bloodwork and exam"
What issues are these? My doctor implied to stop seeing him because "us doctors don't think outside the box" – yes, he said that!! I haven't seen my physician in months since that. He did bloodwork on my blood cells, vitamins, thyroid, and that sort of thing. What else might you suggest?
I've now started the CandiGone. And yes, oops, I was actually juicing fruits previously which I have since stopped doing. Funny because I stopped jucing fruits after I started to feel very ill – probably a result from juicing!… I still drink plenty of water and also add pure organic lemon juice to it as well. I had some Garden of Life fiber sitting around which I forgot about and since I've added that back into my diet my poops have been a whole lot better!! I seem to have many food sensitivities but two things that have helped me feel a little better were Colostrum (I read that adding this to probiotics is very good for your gut) and HCL. With HCL, I had been recommended to try it earlier this year when all this started, but it never helped – probably becuase my stomach pains were already too painful. Now I add 1-2 250mg a meal which seems to be the sweet spot – any more tend to make me more "hungry" which is a contant problem of mine. I read about HCL in Sherry Rogers book but after reading it again in your book "Gut Solutions" (you recommend to take HCL for virtually every gut illness), I figured I would try it again. Props to the book Brenda, between the pictures and the information, that book is a great resource.
However, since I've been doing liver detox and drinking lemon water/taking milk thistle for the past month or so, I've noticed a dull pain in my liver when I wake up in the morning. Nothing too terrible, it's almost something I need to press on in order to figure out where it is. I also feel like my liver is "getting in the way" (best way for me to describe it). Odd thing, this sensation tends to leave after I eat my breakfast and fully diminishes as the day progresses. Is this my liver trying to detox itself? (I did have an ultrasound on my gallbladder and they said NO stones)
I do believe that I have traces of GERD, or at least the silent type. I never get heartburn but I do notice that my esophagus aches at times. But overall, a lot of this has diminished since I started the HCL.
Unfortunately I do still have mucus in my stools, but not as thick or as much as it has been which is good. The final test I did with my gastro was the stool test and they said everything looks good. I would love to do the Comprehensive Stool Analysis (I also read about that in Sherry Roger's book) but I do not have the money for it (I'm a poor college student
). Maybe I'll beg my parents for the money, but they already think I'm a quack since all the tests say I'm OK and I'm still having issues (not to mention the fact that I don't eat gluten, cows milk, or sugars anymore). Is there ANY way I can get this via prescription to save some money?? Also, does this test for heavy metals and food intolerances too?
Leading to my next question – I'm wondering if my candida is linked to a heavy metal posoning. The fact that I've had vaccines every year (including this one) and all the prescription drugs I've been on, and my terrible reactions to the antacids/PPIs they put me on (aluminum)? I've always eaten decently healthy and worked out on a regular basis (I work at a gym!), but I do think accutane played a major role in this – my body seems as though it couldn't handle it…I read online that long-term candida or other gut issues that don't go away might be because of heavy metals? I'm considering after the Candida cleanse (which might not do much good if I have heavy metal problems) I will go on your metal detox and maybe add a grandular supplement which is something I've read is recommended to add to a metal detox??
Overall, since my last post, I've been doing better. I've also started some acupuncture just for the hell of it. Can't say it's improved my digestion (The HCL has though), but it's cleared my mind…However, I'm still not where I want to be. I'm thinking I just need to continue with these detoxes. The inconsistency in my food sensitivities and everything else says to me that there is an underlying cause that once is dispelled, will hopefully get rid of most everything else…What is your opinion?
-Eric
Dear Eric,
Dear Eric,
Your story saddens me greatly.
Both the constant hunger and the mucus in your stool could certainly point to an underlying parasitic issue. I'm assuming that very serious conditions have been ruled out through bloodwork and exam. It may well be at this point, a multitude of issues that seem to have been initiated by the Accutane. Were you taking it for acne? I often recommend probiotics to teenagers who deal with acne issues.
If you’d like to contact my assistant at jsinclaire@renewlife.com, she can send you the chapter on Parasitic Disease from my new book. Since parasites are so difficult to detect, it’s generally a great idea to complete a parasite cleanse when overall symptoms point to possible infection.
Great investigative job you’ve been doing. It’s tough when you can’t get any support from your “doctor/s”. Good that you’re able to see someone alternative for advice.
Since Candida and parasites tend to travel together, it’s wise to treat for both (RenewLife ParaGone has both antiparasitic AND antifungal properties), so I’m glad you’re doing that. You may need to continue for a few cycles, or perhaps flip flop between products like ParaGone and CandiGone like you're planning.
It seems you understand the need to follow an anti-Candida diet – removing the sugar bigtime! This link may be helpful for you – http://blog.brendawatson.com/f…..diet-faqs/. When you mention juicing, I’m thinking you mean strictly green juices. Otherwise, the sugar content in the juice would feed the Candida and continue to mess up your gut environment.
The Liver Detox was designed to be used with almost any program and is an excellent liver support. Once again, good job!
Live Cell Blood Analysis can provide valuable information, however it is often open to interpretation. I can’t comment on your information other than that it seems your body is in a serious situation of overwhelm!
A thought that comes up for me is that sometimes when the bowel is impaired and upset, raw foods are difficult to digest properly. I don’t know if you were able, in your testing, to do a Comprehensive Stool Analysis (described toward the top of this Forum). There are a number of markers regarding absorption as part of that profile, along with actual bacteria, fungal and parasitic tests. Since you’ve been following the same diet with little change for quite some months now, perhaps small changes here and there, within anti-Candida parameters might be useful.
I'm glad there wasn't any overt damage to your intestinal wall, as shown through all those "normal" standard tests you completed. I know you will see an Integrative practitioner when you're able. Might help to define what's really going on.
So here you are – apparently required to rebuild your ability to absorb nutrients, gain weight and strength - and regain a normal life! Primary, in order to rebuild your good bacteria, you are going to need HIGH dose probiotics. I’m not clear what your zing salad provides on a daily basis, or the strength of the probiotics you may be using. If it were me, I’d begin with a product that provides at least 200 billion cultures daily for a week or 2 (at least 2 hours away from the ParaGone or CandiGone) and then maintain on at least 50 billion cultures daily.
Fiber is a another huge component – both soluble and insoluble. Did you know that soluble acts as a fertilizer for your probiotics as well as absorbs toxins? and insoluble fiber exercises and sweeps your intestine. Even though you are eating raw food, I think you might be surprised at the small amount of fiber you are actually ingesting each day, especially as most foods are not appealing to you right now. You might consider a supplement in this area.
Bentonite clay and charcoal can be helpful in absorbing toxins. I've seen them make a huge difference for some people! You will want to continue with strong liver support for a good period of time. A product like Critical Liver Support might be a good thing for you after your cleanse.
I’ll be very interested to hear how you're doing after you complete your cleanse with ParaGone and Liver Detox. Please stay in touch.
Brenda Watson
4:04 pm
November 22, 2011
OfflineThank you for the reply. That is definitely plausable, especially since they were found in my blood during the nutritional blood analysis.
I'm thinking it might be a multitide of things including microscopic parasites (since none were found during the colonoscopy) and fungal.
I have been having some mucus in my stools. The other day it was so bad that it looked like a cottonball pulled apart like a web in the toilet. I asked my gastro about it and he said "that's probably normal." Doctors have been no help at all!
I am now drinking a lot of juice along with my liver detox and parasite cleanse, in hopes of cleansing out the majority of my body! I certainly have a stomach acid problem, but what I want to figure out is the CAUSE, not just treat the symptoms like so many doctors I've seen try to do…
Hopefully Brenda will chime in too, I'm interested as to what she thinks about this.
6:52 am
November 23, 2011
OfflineEric: You are just the guy I wanted to here from today!!!!! I know what you are going through. Please don't take this wrong, but you just might have a parasitic infection that is taking over your entire body. I too have had the same tests. Doctors can't seem to find a cause for your alliments or they just don't care. Take Care Buddy, I'm with you all the way!!!!!! Thomas1
5:04 pm
November 22, 2011
OfflineHi Brenda, I know you are busy so I will try to make this as short as possible! I truly appreciate you reading this!!
Previous to all of this I had perfect digestive health. BMs were normal, everything was fine…
I got off a 6 month course of Accutane around March of this year (worst mistake of my life). I started becoming very ill right after. Initially it started as severe hunger pains. I could eat and eat and my stomach would growl and I would become more hungry. Then I woke up with naseau. Then very bad bowel movements (floating, pale, pebble sized, diherrea and constipation). I felt very ill. I had a colonoscopy and endoscopy. They biopsied for celiac, h pylori, ulcers and the usual and only found inflammation of the esophagus. I was diagnosed with GERD. (This didn't make sense to me cuz I never had heartburn.) So I was put on protonix. I immediately noticed an irregular heartbeat from this medication and then wasn't able to sleep. I became very pale and weak, and devloped twitches and muscle spasms mostly at night. It was hard to function. I became what seemed to be a walking side effect of these drugs.
I finally got off the medication with the help of a green powdered drink. By this time, I was losing weight, despite the fact that I was eating like a pig (I used to be around 140-150 and now Im around 120. I am a 5'8 male and just turned 23 years old). I noticed that the more I ate, the hungrier I became, and then the sicker I felt. Naseau was almost a daily symptom. I went on probiotics which helped regulate my stools, but I still did not feel well. I've since had tests on my gallbladder, barium xray of the small bowel, small intestine bacterial overgrowth, neurological tests for ALS and neuropathy, and am about to get a stool test from my gastro (although by now they all think there's nothnig wrong with me!). I had blood tests for many vitamins, thyroid, etc from my doctor, all normal. My main physician told me that "us doctors don't think outside the box" and recommended not to see him again because he didn't have an answer. I'm in Missouri and naturopathic doctors are not covered by insurance here…
I had a nutritional blood analysis (live blood analysis) and have a 3 for spicules (out of 5, with 5 being the worst/highest), 3 for fungal, 2 for bacteria L form, 3 for parasites, 2.5 for paasitized RBC, 3 for sugar crystals, 4 for high uric acid, 3 for Rouleau, 3 for anisocytosis, 4 for target cells, 3 for poikilocytosis, and 3 for acanthocytes. She has me on a gluten/milk free diet (which I had actually already been doing) with an addition of zing salad (probiotic), powdered greens, b12, amino acids, aloe vera, panceas digestive enzymes, raw veggies/fruits (which I had already been doing) and I'm currently doing the Renew life paragone. At the moment I am also doing a liver cleanse as well (from my own account since accutane really takes a toll on the liver), and will be doing a fungal cleanse next month (probably the candicleanse).
I can't say that it's been much of improvement. I am more functionable, but I am still not very well…I did a regular wormwood complex a while back and felt better for a little bit but dropped back to default again. I'm hoping that the renew life paragone will be different this time – I just started yesterday. I've isolated so many food groups and kept a journal and rarely ever find consistency as to what makes me feel sick and hungry and malnourished.I also have joint pain (probably from the high uric acid), my legs crack, I barely work out anymore because it makes me hungry which often makes me sicker. Protein shakes are a no no for me now because they make me feel worse. I've tried soo many different herbs and pretty much don't have any money life (I'm a student). The tests are continuing to show up negative for everything and I'm fearing that I have what internet forums call the unknown "accutane syndrome" where doctor's tests look fine but I still remain sick. The nutritional blood analysis was helpful, but I'm really not sure about all this and I don't understand why my body is no longer absorbing nutrients. The digestive enzyme doesn't make much of a noticeable difference. Plus, the regiment she has me on for that is something that I've been on for months previous (aloe, raw foods, no gluten, no milk, etc)
I guess what I'm asking is that, what are my next steps? I'm sure my stool test will come out "normal" and my gastro told me on the phone that I have gone through all the tests after this one and there's nothing else they can do. Where do I go from here? I cannot gain weight and I am losing my hair (accutane side effect), my joints hurt (accutane side effect), have little energy, am constantly hungry most especially after eating (but now I just don't eat because it makes me feel less sick), still have night "twitches" and a bit of insomnia here and there which keep me up. This was NEVER a result of anxiety or stress unlike what my doctor thinks, I know something is wrong internally, but what can I do?? I am a mess and I cannot live life like this!
I'm sure I forgot a few things here and there but that is the jist of it…
You are an angel for reading all of this!!
Eric
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